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| Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 08:51 pm |
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hand_research
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Ok Lynn, no problem. Thanks again for your very clear feedback!
Last edited on Mon Jan 26th, 2009 08:52 pm by hand_research
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 10:19 pm |
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Pamelah Landers
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And that is what I meant, too. By looking at the entire hand, I hardly ever see somebody who has just one element and it makes sense that they would have combinations because we all need multiple aspects to survive on the planet.
Lynn, I thought you were talking just about hand shape being a defining piece and I think it has influence, but I don't think it's enough to determine a person's life. That's what I meant. I think it's only one element. And I also rarely see people with a strict hand shape that fits completely into water or air or fire. I see some complete earth types. Maybe it's because I have so many elements in mine that I attract people with multiple elements in their hand shape and maybe most people have a combination hand shape.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26th, 2009 10:33 pm |
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hand_research
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Ok Pamelah, thanks for your additional thought! (Though I guess there was no misunderstanding at all between you en me)
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2009 12:23 am |
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Lynn
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Thanks for explaining Pamelah. It seems I was at cross-purposes with you and Martijn. All along I was just talking about one aspect of Obama's hand - hand shape - not as a defining characteristic - just one feature.
Whilst I had difficulty ascertaining Obama's from different photos, I often see people who have a specific "standard" hand shape (just taking into account - square or rectangular palm, long or short fingers). But as you say, that is just one element, and once you start adding other features we are all some combination of all elements. So I think we agree.
Sorry this has taken the discussion of Obama's hand features waaaay off topic!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2009 12:46 am |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31st, 2009 11:46 pm |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31st, 2009 11:51 pm |
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Christopher Anton
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I,m not sure if everyone will agree with this.
The reading was taken from a photo on the front page of the Evening Standard published on the day President Obama was elected. needless to say there are problems associated with taking a reading from a newspaper photograph, but I did my best.
I,m posting it exactly as I wrote it down at the time.
Reading of the hand of Barack Obama taken from a photograph published in London Evening Standard 6th November 2008.
The reading is limited to the information to be gleaned from the front of the right hand as that is the hand he was waving at the time.Nevertheless a lot can be gleaned from what can be read.
His character.
A spatulate hand ,wider at the top and spatulate long fingers show that he is an intelligent man who tends always to be thinking up new and adventurous ideas and ways of doing things.Brave and not afraid to take a chance although he would be advised to think carefully before making major decisions as he is likely to always feel that he has the right answers. In most proceedings he is always likely to ,a to be the leading light, always trying to get other people to do the "right thing" and he can get quite depressed when people fail to go along with his ideas.
A very empathetic man,he tends to feel very deeply the stress of other people and worry greatly if he feels actions of his would do them harm.
He is extravagant in his nature and in his approach to finance and so is likely to be a very high spender with a laid back approach to where the money comes from.
Generally he is pretty laid back in most of his philosophic opinions and makes up his mind without any real deep thought.
The exception to this is in his religious opinions.He is very religious,or more correctly spiritual,but he tends to analyse the details of his beliefs and doesnt make his mind up on doctrinal matters without a great deal of thought.
Very independant in his thought as also in his actions he can not easily be predicted.
In his love life he makes a very loving partner with a balanced view of how to conduct his marital relations. it must be said however that he may have a tendency to put his partner on a pedestal and expect a higher standard off her than most.He tends towards an excess of the affections and suffers greatly from the affliction of jealousy.
Predictions.
This is pretty straight forward. His hand indicates great sucess at the age of forty seven, or thereabouts, achieved through the help of another person so I deduce from this that he owes someone big time.He also was preserved from a circumstance which could have ended his career recently through the agency of the same person.This person is not a reliable ally as his,or her,interest is based more on the whim of the moment than genuine interest.
His hand indicates that he has a strong martial nature and I predict that he will be involved with three wars,one minor conflict, and two major but connected wars.I advise that he not get involved if at all possible as my reading shows that he will have scant success and if he does get into a war or wars they are likely to be still raging when his career ends.
My final prediction is that his career will end completely and suddenly as a result of a mistaken decision in connection with the affections,what that may be I dont know but I think it may be in his first term.
Finally can I say that while reading the hands can give a very good and accurate predicition of the course of someones life nothing is absolutely certain and people can change their indicated future by changing how they do things,but expereince has thought me that they very seldom do.The above reading was taken from a newspaper photograph and can not be expected to be as accurate as a correctly taken reading.nevertheless I can stand over the conclusions I reached.
I wish Barack Obama,as I would wish everybody who has my life in their hands, wisdom and success and happiness in all his undertakings.
Christopher Anton.
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seawaves
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Hi Christopher
Normally , I dont read character of people so I will not comment anything on your observations. This is individual space of a person and his insight is his priority.
Now coming to your predictions: I did not know, if lines could suggest that a person could lead the country to a war and how many wars and how many will he win. Never read this in any palmsitry, so unless it is your intution, I would like to be guided on which part of his hand shows wars to be fought and won or lost.
Also, his success is not at the age of 47, but from a very early age. As he had done quite well right from your his young age. It is another matter that he would have become President at this age. So, I will not fully agree with you here.
I would agree with you and I have made the first post on this that he would make a blunderous decision while in office and this may be very risky for him, but finally he would come out of it. Now, this can be something to do with a women or something to do with other political affairs.
Lastly, still missing is that he would IRON CLAD SECURITY and he should never be careless about this.
I will make another post about him after his first 100 days in office
Have Fun
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Christopher Anton
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Hi seawaves.
The reading on Mr Obamas hand was taken from a newspaper photo, so I dont suppose it was very professional. I just did it as an exercise and to see what would happen.
The reason I give for his success at forty seven is that he has a line running from his mount of Luna joining his fateline at that point in his life, and the reason I say that he should not trust the person who helped him is because the line from Luna indicates to me that the person who helped him did it out of a whim and not serious reasons.
The reasons why I predicted that he would be involved in three wars is because he has a high mount of Mars under Jupiter, and he had three circles on the mount, two intertwining and one small circle separate. I believe a circle on the hand indicates that a person will get into a situation that they find great difficulity in getting out of.
I think the reason his career will come to a complete end is because, in the picture I saw, his fate line was stopped by his heart line and went no further, hence problems to do with love life will end his career. Saying it will be in his first term was just an educated guess.
The reading of his character was taken from the shape of his hands and his fingers( spatulate) the size and position of his thumb, and the gaps between his fingers.
Thats basically how I did that reading. needless to say reading newspaper photos is not an exact science, still it should be fun seeing if any of the predictions come true, although I pray that the one about the wars is proved to be false.
Take care.
Christopher Anton.
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seawaves
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Hi Christopher,
Your response sounds good.
I would read : On circles under jupiter or lower mars, usually such a person is very gifted and has clairvoyance and can even recall his previous birth.
On line from luna touching the fate line: Usually the fate of a person gets influenced by some journey or a person whom he had met in a journey or I need to see the lines carefully.
You are right newspaper hand print is not an Ideal print
Take care
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rain
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Christopher Anton wrote
His hand indicates that he has a strong martial nature and I predict that he will be involved with three wars,one minor conflict, and two major but connected wars.I advise that he not get involved if at all possible as my reading shows that he will have scant success and if he does get into a war or wars they are likely to be still raging when his career ends.
I feel not only Barack Obama's hand will reveal this but it should also reveal in any other US President's hand other than Obama (well if somebody other than Obama was elected), in this present situation with War on Terror going on.
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rain
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Hi Seawaves 
“Let I and you unite like two rays of sun, which unite to give more light to the world”.
So as per this quote you would like to say that the light that we receive from the Sun are from two different sources ?
But when we receive a light from one single source, how can it be in entity called as two rays.
Let me put it this way :-
For e.g.: You light one bulb and you get some light and this light is a finite light coming from one source and cannot be increased or decreased.
Suppose you want more light add another bulb and you get some more light but here even though the light is having the same properties with more illumination the source is from a different bulb.
Here we can call it in total entity as two different rays !!
Based on the above concept let us try to give a Universling effect to this beautiful phrase which should be like this ……
“Let I and you unite like two rays one from the sun the other from a star, which unite to give more light to the Universe”.
HAHAHAHA
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seawaves
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Hi Pn,
Well with micky as your Avatar, what you say is not quite out of place. Rest is simple physics.
Have Fun
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2009 02:42 am |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2009 09:13 am |
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GM
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Hi All
Further, any other comments on his very long line of Union.I think it should not be confused with extra heart line.
Murtaza
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seawaves
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Hi Martijn,
Good post on Obama from Lorri Reid and Ronald Coburn.
What invariably I have seen is that while interpeting such hands, there is a natural bias of profiling, what we already know and read about a celebrity. I would have done the same while reading Obama hand.
In my own experience, what I call as the " Accelerated Hands " for whom the life plan automatically steers to celebrity and richness of purpose and actions. Such people by virtue of their fate and not by virtue of anything else take an accelerated life path.
Look around in a school and you will find there are some kids who are exceptionally genius and there lines are well laid out. And such kids by virtue of fate accelerate, while all the others have to struggle their way up. These kids themselves do not know that they have something unique blessed onto them.
The gifted hands have quality of all round optimization and unless and untill some lines show otherwise, the person outshines.
Take care
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hand_research
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:thumbup Thanks Seawaves! Last edited on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 11:47 am by hand_research
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2010 12:53 pm |
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hand_research
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A high resultion photo of Obama's left hand:
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2010 12:58 pm |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2010 02:17 pm |
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Sue
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Helen B wrote: Pamelah wrote:
...The person who has a larger gap can see things, process info and provide solutions that are completely outside the box, where if the gap is smaller, maybe on some topics they are independent and some they are more inclined to go along with the tribe....
Hi Pamelah, thank you very much for explaning it to me, it is becoming more clear to me, however I am little bit confused in one aspect.
I recently learned that our palm is devided into several sections. The top section is Mind and Bottom section is Body.
As per my understanding our Heart Line usually is located in the Mind section area that is mainly driven by emotions, now if there is a big gap between the Head Line and Life Line it will possibly move / shift the Head Line into a Mind Hand Section (closer to the Heart Line). Am I correct? So does that mean that Head Line will be more influenced by Emotions?
Am I lost? Would it mean that independent desision making comes from the emotional / intuitive / gut feeling? 
Thank you
Hi Helen
You seem to be mixing up the zones and areas of the hands to fit in with all the lines in a way that would be unlikely to appear.
From a zones point of view, the average heart line is in the emotional zone; the head line is in the practical zone and the life line is in the physical zone. So the two areas that you have mentioned, ie. mind and body isn't really correct. Are you mixing up the idea of the A and V spatulate hand shapes, where the A spatulate hand is physically active and the V spatulate hand is more mentally active?
When thinking about the wide gap between the head/life line origin, it could be argued that Jupiter is pulling the head line origin upwards, adding independence. The fact that it might fall within the emotional zone at its origin isn't really too relevant here. Jupiter is more likely to be the influence on the head line origin rather than because it is encroaching into the emotional zone.
A higher placing of the head line along its length might relate to being influenced in some way by the emotions, as seen for example from the Simian line, but I wouldn't interpret the origin of the head line in the same way.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2010 04:18 pm |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2010 04:27 pm |
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PMS Sethi
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Hello Friends,
When the Head Line is found distinctively separated from the Life Line it shows self-reliance. You cannot bind this subject to your way of thinking or views. They want to do work according to their own thinking and depend upon themselves. They are courageous, original independent, can plan well and are active. If the gap found between the two lines is not big, than this is a good mark on the palm to have. But if the gap between the two lines is found wider and greater so a greater degree of self-reliance will be there in the subject’s mental makeup.
If the gap between the two lines is found wider than greater the degree of self-reliance will be there and the finger tips are pointed than the self reliance will turn into idealism and if finger tips are found spatulate along with this type of Head Line; than great energy and originality will be there and making the mind fertile in new schemes and in the condition as the subject does not ask for advice he or she is likely to commit grave mistakes and errors. Only square tips of fingers, good straight Head Line can save them because good common sense will restrain them to make mistakes.
If the finger tips are pointed than the self reliance will turn into ‘idealism’ and as the subject usually does not ask for advice he or she is likely to commit grave mistakes and errors. So, ‘why this tolerance and what for’ type of thinking will prevail in the subject. The subject is likely to turn his friends in to foes. They find it very difficult to maintain the relationship. I consider it a dangerous sign to possess on palms. Again, my saying is that the hand must be analyzed in totality especially as what his/her head line and directional transverse, or thumbs are denoting.
In President Obama’s case the gap is not as great as comparing to the attached picture. The experience makes us efficient in this regard that the gap is of what kind.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2010 04:33 pm |
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... I received a request from 
... do you have more suggestions? Your feedback is very welcome ... as we are here talking about the most powerful man in the western world!!
