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Pamelah Landers
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Found this today
Michael Jackson's sequined white glove became a signature fashion item for the King of Pop, but according to a friend of Jackson, it was really used to cloak the early stages of his skin disease.
Actress Cicely Tyson, a longtime friend of Jackson, says that she shared a fashion designer with the pop star in the '80s, and saw him design the glove.
"All of a sudden, he said, 'I'm doing this glove for Michael.' Michael was beginning to develop the vitiligo and it started on his hand. The glove was to cover the vitiligo; that's how that glove came into being," Tyson said during an interview with Larry King.
"I was there when he was creating it," she said.
Vitiligo is a disease that causes the skin to lighten in blotches. In a recent interview, Jackson's dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein said that Jackson's particular case "was bad because he began to get a speckled look over his body ... All over his body -- but on his face and hands, which is hard to treat."
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Lynn
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Pamelah Landers wrote: Found this today
Michael Jackson's sequined white glove became a signature fashion item for the King of Pop, but according to a friend of Jackson, it was really used to cloak the early stages of his skin disease.
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good one Pamelah :thumbup confirms Martijn's theory about the glove.
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Dinika
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Hey does any one know what does the star or cross mean?
( I have marked it)
Attachment: MJ.jpg (Downloaded 457 times)
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Manfred
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Hy martijn,
I have a more tehcnical question:
Would I get in some law troubles if I take some of this internet fotos on my website if I take over advices about the source? What are you doing or what have to take into consideration, if you are taking over some pictures from the internet on your website?
Manfred
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hand_research
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Manfred wrote: Hy martijn,
I have a more tehcnical question:
Would I get in some law troubles if I take some of this internet fotos on my website if I take over advices about the source? What are you doing or what have to take into consideration, if you are taking over some pictures from the internet on your website?
Manfred
Hi Manfred,
In general, when pictures are NOT very explicitely copyright (that should be seen IN that picture), you can use them as long as it is "fair" use.
NOTICE: Using pictures for commercial use is another matter, but as far as I know your website your website doesn't have any commertical applications.
Over the past years I received only one request regarding the pictures on one of my weblogs (I didn't concern my website!), ... actually, it concerned a very 'naieve' request: to create a link to the creator of the picture (but it really concerned a small low-quality picture of hand, so I decided simply to DELETE the small picture of a hand immediately).
Manfred try to find some confirmation on the internet for what I said, and I am sure that then you will understand that likely there it not much to worry about - just as long as you follow these 2 principles: no explicitely commercial applications, and no 'copyrighted' pictures.
Great question Manfred!
PS. Many pictures on my website are the results of 'some' creative photoshop process in order to make them fit in the DESIGN & CONCEPT of my website. Sometimes I do receive requests whether people can use my pictures for 'commercial' purposes!
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Dinika
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Hello Martijn..!!
I think you have overseen the last post..about the star on his had..if you have any idea what it means?
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Dinika wrote: Hello Martijn..!!
I think you have overseen the last post..about the star on his had..if you have any idea what it means?
Hello Dinika,
Yes, I had noticed your post ... but I am not convinced at all that it is a star.
Actually, you're referring to the point where the Mercurius line appears to be connected with life line!
(In general, I consider the interpretation of stars and other marks in the lines - as belonging to the most 'speculative' aspects of palmistry - so I often prefer to ignore those marks, especially when it is not a PERFECT mark)
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Hello Helen,
Actually, I don't think it was 'magic' ... more likely it was his disease vitiligo - which is usually featured with skin depigmentation (resulting in a lighter color of the skin).
(Just like this emoticon also suffers on vitiligo: ... yellow face, white hands???)
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Manfred
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Hy Martijn ,
thank you for the excellent new plaster foto!!!
It come to the right time, because I'll do a short lecture about his hand and horoscope at the annual conference of the German Astrologers' Association on 3rd October in Bonn.
Manfred
Last edited on Sat Sep 5th, 2009 07:41 pm by Manfred
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Hi Manfred, I am sure that your audience will love the hand cast because the lines are so visible very well.
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Pamelah Landers
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Thanks, Martijn, for the new post. It's so great to see a clearer cast of his hand. The hand print is telling in that the middle section of his palm didn't print. Not sure if the person printing it knew how to get that or not, but when I see that on prints, it means the person's mid palm is 'protected' or hidden. In my world, the very center of the palm if indented is called the 'cup of tears'.
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Pamelah Landers wrote: Thanks, Martijn, for the new post. It's so great to see a clearer cast of his hand. The hand print is telling in that the middle section of his palm didn't print. Not sure if the person printing it knew how to get that or not, but when I see that on prints, it means the person's mid palm is 'protected' or hidden. In my world, the very center of the palm if indented is called the 'cup of tears'.
Pamelah,
Thanks for sharing this.
In my experience and from what I know, the plain of Mars is about mood. If it's hollow or cup-like, there are fears and pains inside oneself.
Could you elaborate a bit when you say "protected" or hidden? What does "cup of tears" in your world means?
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Pamelah Landers
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After seeing Oprah this week where she showed footage from her 1993 interview with Michael Jackson and shared some insights of how she understands him now, I realized that this portion of his palm print that didn't print is exactly the 'cup of tears'. Michael shared a lot in that interview how sad he was and had beensince childhood when they became famous - he was 8 or 9. He felt alone alot and sad that he couldn't be a regular child.
The 'cup of tears' shows up as 'marking' when the center of the palm, like on Michael's print, is indented. When doing a hand print, it's hard to get ink on any place in the hand that is indented. And if you can get ink on it, it's even harder to print if there is an indent anywhere on the palm.
The cup of tears is about what it sounds like - sadness, grief. And if that part of the hand is indented, it can indicate somebody who spends a lot of time in sadness, as Michael confessed he has spent. It seemed to be a permeating feeling in his life for a long time.
He also told Oprah when she asked about his white skin that he didn't bleach it but that is was his 'skin disease' the vitiligo mentioned in earlier posts, that changed the pigment and he used make up to cover the blotchiness.
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Manfred
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Dea Lynn and Martijn,
there is something I just remembered while studying Michael's plaster and second - lower - headline I wrote about in the past:
Do you remember what I've said about the deep going down on the moon headline and don't to swim or dive into deep water because there is a danger to loose conciousness? I think Michael droped into a similar "deep water" or well when he took Propofol.
According to this I would still count the lower Moon as a Neptun not Pluto area and the lowest edge to Uranus.
Manfred
Last edited on Mon Sep 21st, 2009 02:51 pm by Manfred
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I'm with you, Manfred, that the lower moon is much more Neptunian than Plutoish. Since there is no agreement amongst palmists who have published where Pluto is, I guess it's up for determination by each reader. I have it above the moon zone below the heart line. Richard and I talked about it and he also had another hand analyst who was also an astrology and numerologist who has Pluto in the same location.
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Dear Pamelah,
thank you for your anwer.
I'm not shure, if you've followed our (Lynn's, Martijn's and my) discussion about this subject around spring. May be it would be helpful to read the thread again.
The very most of the astro-chirologists here use this assignement, in tradition of G. Hurliman (Swiss).
I use Pluto and Mars for what we traditionally call the lower mount of mars (upon Moon).
But to go deeper there would be a strong need to talk longer and to characterize what Pluto really means even for astrologist.
The oldest assignement, an indirect assignement, we find in Cheiro's "Palmistry for all". Look for the very good part Mars negative (= Scorpion, Scorpion is the sign of Mars and Pluto) p.157.
Another and the real first mention and direct assignement I found is in "Stars in your hands" B. Jaegers, 1974 (though I don't agree her assignment of Uranus in the middle of the hand).
Sorry readers (Martijn), for going here a little bit beside the thread headline, but there was a need.
Manfred
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... 100% bullshit! Those are both Michael Jackson's hands!! But the responses on that 'hoax-website' indicate that obviously, quite a lot of people don't know how to 'read hands' from photos! 
... thanks Manfred, anyone can continue on the pluto/neptunus/uranus talk in the other discussion:
