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| Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 10:03 am |
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5starz
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Hi,
I am very thankful to all your efforts and benazir's picture.As for the " Print of her Palm",, I am not quite sure about its authencity.
The site and reading about Stokes' comment,,well... some thing was missing and some thing was added.
e.g. on Comment 3 , he predicted a Shy person,,which is not so ( she was dashing ),,also talking about Saturn and other stuff ( not acceptable to me)..
For the cause of her death in that fashion,,we must have both palms,,also there must be some THING on her life line or head line.
If we observe minutely the size & shape of the Thumb in the print is different from her picture. 
The index finger or Jupiter must have been longer than the ringer finger , which is not so in the print. 
Most probably the real print is misplaced some where else and he used an old copy.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 07:39 pm |
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| Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 09:47 pm |
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sunny
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hi everybody .in photos her life line was very short. her sun line was big.she had mole on suturn mount. any comments?
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| Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 12:13 am |
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Den
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I am ashamed to say that I did not know much about this woman prior to her assasination; looking at these photos has sparked some interest for me.
I have noted that her lunar mount looks red to me in almost all of those photos.
As far as authenticity of the palm print...sure does look like her hand to me.
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hand_research
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Hi Den,
Yes, the red colour got my attention as well. I think this might be one of the key-factors which explain her extraordinary behaviour - since her assassination was not the first moment that put her country into a shock ... :surprised
Thanks for your input!
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PredictGuru
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Dear Hand Research 
I want you to verify certain things about her life (sorry I am not aware of her life details). I want to authenticate the validity if the hand pic you posted on the first post of of the PM or not.
According to the hand print, this person left her country for study in college and then at about 28th year of her life returned back to her country and got a deep interest into a kind of activity which could have been politics. :surprised
If you can please verify this incident with her life and if it is correct :thumbup, then it is late PM hand, else not :tease
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hand_research
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Hello PredictGuru,
A short biography of Benazir Bhutto's life is presented at wikipedia, I would like to invite you to check/varify your comments by yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto
Last edited on Sat May 3rd, 2008 09:37 am by hand_research
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hansi
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Personally, I dont really care if this is really Ms Butto's hand or not. Until and unless no one comes forward with the a factual finding that this is NOT Ms Butto's hand till then we are no one to defy claims.
Besides, I read on the news that she had been exiled out of her country for many years. The security issue that is coming up could be due to the exile.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31st, 2008 06:45 pm |
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GM
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Hi all
In spite of all, we can learn a lot from her hand prints.I will try to Meet very aged Mr.M.A.Malik, who had the opportunity to see her hands two times.
GM
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20th, 2008 06:53 pm |
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hand_research
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Hello GM,
I think it would be great to here some response from Mr. Malik!!! Let's hope that he can confirm the authenticity of the palm print in the article (though I have no reasons at all to question the author of the article, palmist T. Stokes from the UK).
Regards from The Netherlands!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 10:59 am |
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hand_research
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Hi GM,
Just wondering, have you been able to contact Mr. Malik about the hands of Benazir Bhutto?
SOME UPDATED INFO:
By the way, this week I have received comments from various sources who have informed me that Benazir Bhutto's palmprint was taken quite a few times during her lifetime ... and the authenticy of the palmprint presented by T. Stokes (in his article described above) has also been confirmed by a hand reader who met Benazir Bhutto several times!
Last edited on Wed Nov 12th, 2008 11:29 am by hand_research
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 12:01 pm |
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Manfred
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Dear palmists,
if you compare the print with the fotos you have to consider that she hold the hand not stright to the arm while the print was taken as you can mention.
If we are not careful with this we come to wrong conclusions. While comparing the finger lengths we have to take always cars, that the hand lies stright along the arms and not sideward in any kind!
I think the print and hand on the photo are the same.
If your looking for foresight of the time point of her dead, you'll find it exact at the live line crossed by the Mercury line. - When I mentioned it first at Martijns website I was very astonished that we can foresee a critical point in her live (if it wasn't manipulated afterwards) and I studied her biographiy meticulously.
If there is a wish I could also put in her birth and even the exact (!) dead charts here (she died with 54) I draw after the public proclamation in the news that time.
Manfred
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 01:05 pm |
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hand_research
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Manfred wrote: Dear palmists,
if you compare the print with the fotos you have to consider that she hold the hand not stright to the arm while the print was taken as you can mention.
If we are not careful with this we come to wrong conclusions. While comparing the finger lengths we have to take always cars, that the hand lies stright along the arms and not sideward in any kind! ....
Manfred
Thanks Manfred,
I think your comments on 'finger lengths' were in response to GM's attempt to make a comparision between the fingerlength on the palmprint and in the various photos - I could describe this attempt as a 'mission impossible'. So, I fully agree with your words!
On top of this I want to notice here that the other participants in this discussion appear to have limited their search for similarities between the palmprint and the photos to the palmar lines!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15th, 2009 12:24 am |
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hand_research
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GM wrote: Hi all
In spite of all, we can learn a lot from her hand prints.I will try to Meet very aged Mr.M.A.Malik, who had the opportunity to see her hands two times.
GM
Hello GM,
Look who I just discovered at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M_A_Malik_(Palmist)
(EDIT: Sorry ... the link doesn't work because somehow the last ')' gets not included in the link, so you'll have to type the last ')' into your browers - or copy and paste the full link into your browser - then you will be able to visit the wikipedia page about palmist M.A. Malik)
Last edited on Thu Jan 15th, 2009 11:24 pm by hand_research
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15th, 2009 01:10 pm |
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hansi
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Martijn,
It does not give any information on Mr. M A Malik
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15th, 2009 11:25 pm |
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hand_research
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hansi wrote: Martijn,
It does not give any information on Mr. M A Malik
Hansi, thanks for making this noticed. I have added new instructions in my previous message.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16th, 2009 12:44 am |
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seawaves
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Hi All,
Let us assume that it was Beanzir`s Hand.
At the outset, it looks a very nice hand with a great destiny.
The only line on the mount of moon, which kind of dips towards the Rascettes is an indication of her living in exile for a long period of life.
Her Jupiter finger and jupiter markings also make her a natural leader.
The markings under the sun are not so clear and hence cannot really comment much on it.
I would only partially agree with Mr Stokes in his reading of the hand.
There is absolutlely no indication on her hand that she would have a short life.
Unless, there were some other marks, which actually did not get printed to this file.
Nevertheless, we are also anxiously awaiting the comments of the person who actually read her hand twice.
Take care
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16th, 2009 04:26 am |
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Manfred
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Dear seawaves,
you wrote:
"There is absolutlely no indication on her hand that she would have a short life."
I don`t agree with you.
As I mentioned before, the Mercury line crosses the life line at the exact date of her death - the print was taken some years before she died.
This is what Cheiro said as one possibility of a characteristic death feature. I found this interesting, because I didn't believe in that before.
All in all is the print not really good enough to go more in the details.
I don't have very much experience with death marks who died some years later after taking their prints, but it was also interesting for me to find similar significant marks on the life lines of my father and a friend, who died some years later after taking their prints and at the same time mark I found and could measure after.
Manfred
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16th, 2009 04:35 am |
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seawaves
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Herr Manfred,
Guten Mogen,
Actually, I would have read that line as a health line, which would help her overcome any major health problem at that particular age.
However, since you also confirm that your father had the same indication, then I would change my views and follow yours.
'My way of absorbing palmistry is going by what you see actualy in life and not by way of what you hear.
Thx for the input, I have recorded it for my future readings.
Aufwidersehen
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16th, 2009 10:36 am |
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hand_research
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Seawaves & Manfred,
Thanks for your additional comments on 'point 8' in Benazir Bhutto's hand.
Last edited on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 10:37 am by hand_research
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