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 Posted: Sun Feb 1st, 2009 01:34 am
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:yes Martijn we were writing similar things at the same time. my reply is here http://www.internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/forum142/3942.html(so as not to digress from Einstein hand discussion)

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Thanks to both of you.. very much.
Now I am officially certified as a COMPLETELY SANE person.:rofl

Sincerely, I am really impressed how people can say a lot from looking at palm lines. I am slowly picking up this skill too. Hopefully, I'll be reasonably good someday.
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Getting back to Einstein,
I have noticed that there's a thin prominent line running parallel to the life line on both of his hands; especially on the right hand. What does it mean?

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Dear Lynn and Martijn,

you wrote:
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PS. NOTICE: In the article I have remarked that Einstein does not have a 'typical' Sydney line either ... but the complex island at the end of Einstein's left head line does create a constellation which could be described as related to the Sydney line (some would prefer to call his a Sydney line, others might say that it doesn't meet the standard for a 'typica' Sydney line ... sometimes hand reading is a matter of 'perception')"

I'm one of the others that might say that A.E.'s head lines doesn't meet the standart for a typical Sydney line.
His left head line seems to be. May be we should analyse the island at the end in a special way as a dispisiton for some kinds of head desease or as a pecularity in the head feature.
It is known that his head was sensational just when he was born.

The right head line for me is only very long. I agreei with Lynn: Significant for thinking a lot or to take the very details into the consideration.

Perhaps it's interesting for you: I have Sydney lines in both hands. My left head line is lengthened by a branche to the lower third of the Moon. That is changable like the Moon, sometimes clear and sometimes nearly disappeared. My right Sydney line grew much longer during the years. The head line joins with a little line coming from the percussion. Originally they were seperated.

It's like a hobby of me to go very much into details and to bear it only in memory - I have a "memory loop"
in the right. (with Christopher I prefer to say "loop of sensitifity")

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Lynn wrote: :yes Martijn we were writing similar things at the same time. my reply is here http://www.internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/forum142/3942.html(so as not to digress from Einstein hand discussion)


:) Lynn .. I've found your contribution in the other discussion! Excellent!



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Hi all. I know I am coming in real late on this one but I thought I would like to make a couple of observations.

Einstein, Although he was a genius, was a lousy husband. he gave his wifw a hard time because he didnt think she was good enough for him . So he probably had a very unhappy  marriage, hence the rough heartline. short fingers can be a sign of an irritable and critical nature, and that figures as well. It is fascinating to see the hands of famous people as it can help us no end when we see in our knowledge of their lives the confirmation of the truth of palmistry.

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Dear Martijn,

thank you for Arnold's statement.

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articularly interesting the reference to the short fingers as one possible sign for genius. A profound thenar and an especially hypothenar developement is what I would await first - together with an extraordinary, corresponding headline. They accentuate his theoretical, intuitiv kind of intellekt and his very fast way of bringing his thoughts on papers.

I think the very long Mercury finger, specially on the left hand of A. E.'s hand is also very remarkable. Though they are both low set. They underline the intellekt and his abilities for describing something with spoken words or for writing it down.

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Manfred & Christopher,

Thank you both for the continuation of presenting new info about Einstein in this discussion!

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Dear Matrijn,

at the moment I'm absolutely excited!
As you shurely mentioned, I'm a friend of important palmistry books. Now, yesterday I've got o brilliant print-copy of the Chiromantia Theoretica Practica of J. Rothmann, printed in 1596, written in very old fashion German!
I have some good reprints of well-known German Renaissance chiromantic books,  but it's the oldest that is combining astrology with chirolology/chiromancy extendingly with examples. - That's what I had to tell you.

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(bringing it up for further discussion)



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Hello martijn,

I Have genuine doubt similar like of tamoor's that how we could conclude it is the hand print of Einstein's hand?

do this prints indicate any kind of inventor's combination? spatulate finger with square hand.

manfred mentioned a quote from a book regarding prediction of Einstein's hand. In that , i got a point regarding white spots on palm. This would be the indication of inventor. but, needless to say , we cant see white spots on the ink-prints.

As tamoor said, i have severe doubts on these prints. however we can trace good major lines and minor lines. we miss many identity of a scientist! ,His fingers are looking longer than palm in his photos. where as palm prints shows different story. dont you think his left hand pinky is low set;

Possibly, we may continue a discussion regarding hand of scientist inorder to know the truth!

The prints shows good aspects too but, are These aspects enough to full fill the criteria of world famous scientist! for example, he have long, and forked headline. one branch goes to moon mount shows insight!( it is not intuition; by the way he may not interested in occults ) not only that. The end of head line forms triangle. a slope line closes the fork. But, is these indentity enough? star in the jupiter mount. . . . I couldnt see anything in his jupiter. manfred mentioned it. If so, he suppose to had great success in marriage. I cant say The heart line is good in the posted palm print. but we could see many flirt lines through out. isnt it? if so, did he contact with many womens?

left hand pinky is prominently dropped down. but, he use to conduct seminars.,ie., around 20 meeting with in few days. his finger prints you have confirmed that he has loop in pinky. Therefore how can i believe this palm prints!

This hand prints is venus dominant one? do you think, he is venus dominant!

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Hi stalin,

Did you notice that Temoor jumped into conclusion after seeing only the lower quality versions of Einstein's handprints.

For example: Temoor described that in the lower quality versions he was not able to find a "clear and single sun line", and "long and clear fate line" ... but obviously the higher quality handprints show that these lines are for sure present in those handprints!

Temoor also used the argument:

"My point of view is hand should itself speak that it is the hand print of Albert Einstin"

Obviously, this is only his 'opion' ... but is this really an 'argument'?

Fact is, that various other very experienced hand analysts from all over the world (e.g. Richard Unger, Arnold Holtzman) have recognized the authenticity of those handprints.

So, how come that for some (including me, Manfred, Lynn & quite a few other people on this forum) these handprints do show characteristics that are related to what we know about Albert Einstein? While some other people are not able to do that?

Likely, the different opinions can be explained by the differences in our theoretical perceptions ... but are our theoretical perception really a good argument to question the authenticity of a handprint???

My answer is: theoretical knowledge is not a usefull argument at all... for this purpose!

Again,

- these handprints were present in book by a German palmist from Germany (Einstein was living in Germany backthen as well); the author has presented more handprints of famous people in that book.

- the handprints do show at least some 'matches' with the photos of Einstein's hands earlier in this discussion (broad & strong thumb, short fingers).

 

Stalin,

I think your own arguments are questionable:

- does every good scientist really have the "spatulate finger with square hand"? (I don't think so)

- regarding your 'white points' theory ... why do you include this as an argument while we are not able to observed Einstein's hands directly? (Stalin, try to be aware...:titter ... and don't get lost and confused in your own questions!!!)

- regarding your observation from Einstein's photos: "His fingers are looking longer than palm in his photos" ... sorry, but what photo did you make you jump into that conclusion??? (Stalin, I think none of the photos presented in this discussion indicates that Einsten had LONG fingers).

 

I hope these answers will help you to re-consider your observations/conclusions?

Greetings, Martijn.

 




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 Posted: Sat Jun 13th, 2009 09:31 pm
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hm....sometimes I can't understand some doubts in here, not only in this case.
Perhaps interesting for some from German Wikipedia:

"Zwischen 1924 und 1935 wurden von der Berlinerin Marianne Raschig 2500 Handabdrücke berühmter Personen wie Hans Albers,Gerhard Hauptmann, Albert Einstein,Thomas Mann.... Sie sah als Chiromantin in Handlinien und -formen einen Spiegel seelischer und physischer Eigenschaften. Die Sammlung wurde 1985 für 200.000 Mark von den Raschig-Erben an einen Antiquar veräußert. Handabdrücke von Igor Stravinsi, Alban Berg und Richard Strauss brachten diesem bei Versteigerungen bei Sotheby's zusammen 10.000 Mark ein."

Partly translated:
"Between 1924 and 1935 Maranne Rasching from Berlin took 2500 hand prints from celebrities like .....Albert Einstein...,
In 1985 the collection was sold for 200 000 Mark from the Raschig heirs to an antiquar...three of them brought together 10 000 Mark at an auctioning with Sotheby's."

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http://wissen.spiegel.de/wissen/dokument/dokument.html?id=13514114&top=SPIEGEL

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Manfred wrote: hm....sometimes I can't understand some doubts in here, not only in this case.

( ... :rofl )

 

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Great research Manfred!

Obviously ... that info is another indication that there is no 'objective' reason at all to question the authenticity of those handprints.

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Dear Martijn,

another gift for you

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sourec: http://www.einsteingalerie.de/privat/eid.html

Attachment: A. Einstein schwört den Eid auf die amerikanische Verfassung.doc (Downloaded 2 times)

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Thanks Manfred,

Yes, I included a smaller version of this picture in my article.

 




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:awesome ... I think I have found another feature in Albert Einstein's hands that  can be related to autism:

In the Romanian source that I mentioned yesterday in Manfred's discussion about the 'whorl on the moon', I have found that fingerprint asymmetries appear to be another interesting feature to consider.

The Romanian source describes that in 'normal' people very often more loops are found in the right hand compared to the left hand (71.10%) - however in the hands of the the studied people with autism the reverse was observed (60.44%).

Source: http://www.jmpiasi.ro/2003/11(1)/2.pdf

Einstein had 1 fingerprint 'loop' in his left hand (pinky) ... but Einstein had 2 fingerprint 'loops' in his right hand!!

 

I have written a few more details about Einstein's hand features that can be related to his suspected autism (Asperger's syndrome), at:

The hand of Albert Einstein: did he have the Asperger variant of autism?



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(The following discussion includes some sharing of thought about the fact Einstein started talking at a rather late: age 4 - see: http://internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/view_topic.php?id=4520 )



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Hi Observer,

Just wondering if this is really Dr. Einstein's right hand print. I am fascinated with the headline that dips down to Mount of Luna. And look at that Mount of Luna! It is quite pronounced. I get the impression that the owner of this hand has: 1) vivid imaginative rather than practical life  2) strong powers of 'living thinking' -- the owner thinks in pictures and (I'm doing this intuitively now) 3) a kind of childlike attitude.
I'm not sure if these make sense. Einstein was a physicist afterall. But then again, wasn't he the guy that said, "Imagination is more powerful than knowledge"?  



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:wave ... In another discussion we discovered recently that 'abnormal short fingers' can be recognized by a "finger length ratio" (= 'middle finger length compared' to 'hand length') below 0.40.

And guess what?

Suprizingly (?), the handprints of Albert Einstein indicates that both of his hands meet this criterium!

(left hand: 'finger length ratio' = 0.392; right hand: 'finger length ratio' = 0.387)

 

PS. You can check out more details how to measure the 'finger length ratio' in this discusison:

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PHOTOS: Einstein's left hand + right hand:



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Hello martijn.

So what these short fingers indicate apart form ability to think quickly ?

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